tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post4839760629632652777..comments2024-03-28T07:28:58.459-07:00Comments on The Breeding-back Blog: The Tauros ProjectDaniel Foidlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02924677790606716751noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-36756576676958890772023-04-25T10:29:07.511-07:002023-04-25T10:29:07.511-07:00The evolution of the TaurOs Project is simple: the...The evolution of the TaurOs Project is simple: they crossbred a number of cattle breeds and let them breed for themselves and a lot of advertising. Not actual "breeding-back" in my opinion. Daniel Foidlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02924677790606716751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-55626911398882711802023-04-23T08:57:25.817-07:002023-04-23T08:57:25.817-07:00Ten years. Can you writte about the evolution of t...Ten years. Can you writte about the evolution of the proyect?USDLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18077691902907123529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-19167311412702250082022-03-21T14:09:17.669-07:002022-03-21T14:09:17.669-07:00The 'tauro', successor to the prehistoric ...The 'tauro', successor to the prehistoric cow, new inhabitant of La Maleza de Tramacastilla park:<br />https://www.heraldo.es/noticias/aragon/teruel/2021/05/08/el-tauro-descendiente-de-la-vaca-prehistorica-nuevo-habitante-del-parque-la-maleza-de-tramacastilla-1490552.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-40675718181898490942021-10-08T13:44:27.214-07:002021-10-08T13:44:27.214-07:00Brabants Landschap:
https://www.brabantslandschap....Brabants Landschap:<br />https://www.brabantslandschap.nl/<br />https://nl-nl.facebook.com/BrabantsLandschap<br />https://www.facebook.com/BrabantsLandschap<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/InformatiepuntKeent/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-71158718276610400382021-09-05T10:40:01.580-07:002021-09-05T10:40:01.580-07:00Europe’s New Wild - The Missing Lynx:
https://www....Europe’s New Wild - The Missing Lynx:<br />https://www.pbs.org/video/episode-1-preview-missing-lynx-l6fvol/<br />https://www.thirteen.org/programs/europes-new-wild/the-missing-lynx-8iphcn/<br />https://video.pbsnc.org/show/europes-new-wild/<br />https://rewildingeurope.com/europes-new-wild/<br />https://www.natgeotv.com/za/shows/nationalgeographicwild/europes-new-wild<br />https://comunidadeculturaearte.com/europes-new-wild-grande-vale-do-coa-e-rewilding-portugal-fazem-parte-de-nova-serie-da-national-geographic/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-18257998061509435072021-07-29T19:05:06.455-07:002021-07-29T19:05:06.455-07:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC_GqrdscVg
https...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC_GqrdscVg<br /><br />https://rewildingeurope.com/european-rewilding-network/<br />https://rewildingeurope.com/rew-project/la-maleza/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-17232558268531742472021-07-18T09:19:31.950-07:002021-07-18T09:19:31.950-07:00https://www.parquelamaleza.com/https://www.parquelamaleza.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-29458907122098605472021-07-18T09:17:20.611-07:002021-07-18T09:17:20.611-07:00Tauros cattle in Spain:
https://www.facebook.com/p...Tauros cattle in Spain:<br />https://www.facebook.com/parquelamaleza/videos/490621845320687/<br />https://www.facebook.com/parquelamaleza/photos/a.124717412439933/346253176953021/?type=3&theater<br />https://www.facebook.com/parquelamaleza/videos/359346819107179/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-2007761333622864252014-09-25T10:06:13.472-07:002014-09-25T10:06:13.472-07:00Yes, this bull has only a very shallow hump on thi...Yes, this bull has only a very shallow hump on this video. Now, as the bull is more than 4 years old, he has more prominent shoulder spines than back when the video was shot. Daniel Foidlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02924677790606716751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-53845712985368377032014-09-24T20:18:57.811-07:002014-09-24T20:18:57.811-07:00Aurochs is ready for a return to the mountains...
...Aurochs is ready for a return to the mountains...<br />The bull in the video is lacking the characteristic "S" shape spine that extinct aurochs once had.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-26495180978664391182014-07-20T21:54:37.593-07:002014-07-20T21:54:37.593-07:00This passage from De Bello Gallico is well-known a...This passage from De Bello Gallico is well-known and often-cited, but it should not be taken too literally regarding what it says about the aurochs' temperament. First of all, Caesar probably did not see any living aurochs himself, and it is only natural behaviour that a large and formidable animal becomes aggressive when injured or chased. This does not mean that the aurochs per se was an aggressive animal, I think it may have been comparable to the wisent and that its first reaction to humans was flight. <br />BTW, I do not think the aurochs was docile, that would be ridiculous. The aurochs was a wild animal, and not a tame domestic cow. Daniel Foidlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02924677790606716751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-30574159403545169092014-07-20T07:35:15.324-07:002014-07-20T07:35:15.324-07:00Julius Caesar wrote about aurochs in Gallic War Ch... Julius Caesar wrote about aurochs in Gallic War Chapter 6.28:<br /><br />"...those animals which are called uri. These are a little below the elephant in size, and of the appearance, color, and shape of a bull. Their strength and speed are extraordinary; they spare neither man nor wild beast which they have espied..." <br /><br />If this is true, then revived aurochs should be an aggressive animal and not docile one. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-37220819797756539102013-12-27T13:01:10.678-08:002013-12-27T13:01:10.678-08:00Hi, this is a good question with a complicated ans...Hi, this is a good question with a complicated answer. First of all, Lidia is really hard to manage because of their wild/aggressive/nervous behaviour; this makes things more complicated and dangerous for the people involved. That's why the ABU reduced the Lidia influence in their Taurus cattle recently. The TaurOs Project avoid that by not using the breed and claiming that their behaviour is unnatural as a pretense. Furthermore, they want to emphasize their supposed difference from Heck/Taurus by claiming that these are aggressive and dangerous (which is in fact not true) and that their cattle is docile and that this even is the natural state. And yes, it also has publish relation reasons, because some people might fear a large aurochs-like bovine might be dangerous. <br />Regarding the behaviour of Lidia, I think that their aggression was in fact augmented by selection for "fighting spirit" over centuries, but it is clear that docility and tameness are no natural traits either. We don't have real aurochs to compare with, but I think the behaviour of Lidia is less derived than that of tame dairy cows. But the aurochs was probably similar in behaviour to other wild cattle like Wisent, Banteng and Gaur and preferred flight over attack, except if it was already wounded or unable to flee. While Lidia is IMO extremely desirable for any aurochs project, their aggression simply gives practical problems. But the behaviour of cattle adapts to its circumstances anyway, feral cattle shy and know how to defend themselves. Even dairy cows get very dangerous and feisty when they defend their calves (even against black bears and wolves). So I don't see a problem regarding defense against predators as long as the cattle is physically able to. Daniel Foidlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02924677790606716751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-30496667524300398732013-12-27T12:10:53.232-08:002013-12-27T12:10:53.232-08:00Hello, I have a question. I read that the Lidia br...Hello, I have a question. I read that the Lidia breed was not included despite its close affinity to the Aurochs because of its aggressive nature. However, this confuses me. Isn't aggression a good thing for a rewilding project? Meekness is a sign of docility, and of bottleneck/inbreeding depression while aggression is good for wariness and group defence against wild predators. The wildest prey are in general very aggressive and hard to manage. Shouldn't this be sought after during the breeding program? To breed a wily and hard to manage animal?<br />If the rewilding project is serious, then I envision the reintroducting of larger predators and if there is no serious aggressive/wary trait present. Then I would see a problem. By selecting this out, aren't you putting a large defect on the animals' survival?<br />Or is it due to public safety concern?wananahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11184029622634533970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-44635619000851315712013-07-11T02:39:58.824-07:002013-07-11T02:39:58.824-07:00Apparently there are no projects yet, unfortunatel...Apparently there are no projects yet, unfortunately. I'll write a blogpost on that subspecies soon. Daniel Foidlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02924677790606716751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-12454594583730518532013-07-10T21:48:25.901-07:002013-07-10T21:48:25.901-07:00Is there any project to breed back the Indian Auro...Is there any project to breed back the Indian Auroch subspecies?DTWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00192549792062281408noreply@blogger.com