tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post7210882820606434130..comments2024-03-28T07:28:58.459-07:00Comments on The Breeding-back Blog: The horses in the LippeaueDaniel Foidlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02924677790606716751noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-84302862184488403772016-07-29T20:20:08.808-07:002016-07-29T20:20:08.808-07:00I have been consulting this entry out of interest ...I have been consulting this entry out of interest in the results of hybridizing domestic and przewalski's horses. I am glad I did because it provided inspiration for one of the more recent posts on my blog. If you would take the time to read it at some point I would love to know what you think. http://rewildcanada.blogspot.ca/2016/07/possible-breeds-to-be-used-in-creation.htmlRhysLemoinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07185462416597856043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-7188121451093973672016-07-11T23:21:07.367-07:002016-07-11T23:21:07.367-07:00If these 1/2 Przewalski-crosses would be crossed w...If these 1/2 Przewalski-crosses would be crossed with mongol horses the offsprings would be 1/4 Przewalsi and 1/2 mongolian. <br />And if these would be crossed to the original pool it would result in 1/8 Przewalski and 1/4 mongolian. <br />Crossed back to the previous generation the result would be 3/16 Przewalski and 3/8 mongolian.<br />Maybe this would be the most true thing wich could be done to horses...they should be somewhat wild and have a healthy gene-pool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-83273723680965873272016-07-10T08:55:41.146-07:002016-07-10T08:55:41.146-07:00Has it been tried to cross a Przewalski horse with...Has it been tried to cross a Przewalski horse with a donkey ?<br />With how many chromosomes would a foal end up ?<br />If it would be 64, maybe a ~true hybrid may be the result...?<br /><br />(sorry if this is a double-posting, unsure if it was send already. and preview does't work)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-35741100188744197312016-04-06T09:57:52.834-07:002016-04-06T09:57:52.834-07:00Some of your questions and points have been adress...Some of your questions and points have been adressed on this blog already, you can browse the "wild horse" section, there are a couple of posts that cover those topics. <br />I am not particularly fond of those Heck horses either, they are basically just washy Koniks. Daniel Foidlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02924677790606716751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-25967269657740410922016-04-06T08:02:46.140-07:002016-04-06T08:02:46.140-07:00How important are the visual aspect vs. their func...How important are the visual aspect vs. their functionality as a wild horse? Healthyness, resistance against elements, ability to live on scarce food etc.<br /><br />How much is known of the Konik horse as to having direct roots from the Tarpan? Is this genetically verifiable? And how much of their wild qualities have they lost? And how much might we really know about wether the Tarpans were already mixed with domesticated horses, which is a highly likely scenario.<br /><br />Cave paintings show a way more diverse set of colourations than the brown-greyish appearance of the Konik. The third most common seem to share that of a leopard appaloosa. There is also a striped pattern often depicted that may have been lost in time, or maybe that is how they depicted brindle.<br /><br />But i am thinking, the main goal should be a sustainable and healthy population, and perhaps shyness of humans which, as you suggested, the przewalski can help with. To be accurate with how they are depicted on cave paintings the leopard colouration type also need to be introgressed.<br /><br />Really one of the absolutely toughest horse breeds out there period, is the Criollo, they thrive on little food and survive in heat and cold. They also have a strong immune system and arguably the best stamina in the horse world. These characteristics are obviously acquired descending from Spanish war horses, having survived world wide voyages and in the wild of southern south America which both get's very hot and snowy, where it also needed to be wary of predators such as the Jaguar and mountain lion and have developed a strong immune system withstanding parasites prevalent in south american jungles. It's like this breed is just waiting to be benefited for a program like this. It would be ashame to overlook it atleast.<br /><br />Other tough breeds are obviously the Yakutsk horse, whose ability to flee predators i question, and the Icelandic horse but these are primarily adapted to arctic conditions and especially the icelandic horses are very difficult to spook since they have no natural predators where they roam also they have been very isolated from disease.<br /><br />If you want to get good results on this project there is basically a certain set of criterias, right? Build, colouration, and wilderness adaptability. Now for these criterias the Konik-Przewalski are probably closest to the real deal so far, but could definitely benefit from introgression of other tough breeds and diversification of their colour patterns. And the Criollo honestly could have real benefit to the resilience aspect. But i mean really, i don't think the Heck horses hold much more "wilderness qualification" than many other horses out there. <br /><br />My 50 cents. And kudos for an interesting blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1222590081823739642.post-11760276403316789532016-04-05T02:35:36.169-07:002016-04-05T02:35:36.169-07:00How about the Icelandic horse and Criollo? They ve...How about the Icelandic horse and Criollo? They very much have potential as horses bred for tough conditions. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com